Stairs & Railings
Custom Stair Installation in Logan Square, Philadelphia
Treads, risers, stringers and skirt board, built to a drawing instead of a catalog page. In Logan Square, Philadelphia the median home dates to 1972 and 19.7% of the housing predates 1940, which changes what Deco Hardwood Floor expects to find before the work starts.
Turning a carpeted stair into a hardwood one
In Logan Square most stairs were built to be carpeted, which means the wood under the carpet is usually framing lumber and not a finished staircase.
Lifting a corner of the carpet and seeing wood is where the misunderstanding starts. A stair built for carpet has plain treads with no finished nosing, and it was never meant to be seen. Making it a hardwood stair means new treads and risers fitted over or in place of what is there.
The straight stairs common in postwar housing are the simplest ones to convert. Each tread is measured individually, because no two openings in a lived-in house are exactly the same.
Before you get a quote
New treads change the height of the first and last steps slightly. That gets worked out in advance, since a step that differs from the others is the one people trip on.
How the housing in Logan Square compares
Of the 13,597 housing units in Logan Square, roughly 2,700 were built before 1940 and approximately 7,700 before 1978.
That makes the housing here newer than the 132 Philadelphia neighborhoods in our data taken together, where approximately 82.8% of 733,961 units predate 1978, and below the 60.5% figure for our whole service area. By the share built before 1940, Logan Square ranks 101st of those 132. The full table is published as open housing data.
Within Philadelphia, the oldest housing in our data is in Cedar Park, with a median year of 1925, and the newest is in Kensington, Old, at 1997.
| Place | Median year built | Built before 1940 |
|---|---|---|
| Logan Square | 1972 | 19.7% |
| Rittenhouse | 1951 | 43.9% |
| Spring Garden | 1962 | 38.8% |
| Francisville | 1937 | 52.9% |
| Fitler Square | 1929 | 67.1% |
| Center City East | 1982 | 41.1% |
| Chinatown | 1974 | 20.3% |
For stair work, the pre-1940 share is the figure to watch. Stairs of that age were built in place by hand, and deciding what can stay is the first part of the job.
What is usually under the floor here
Two and a quarter inch red oak nailed over a wood subfloor, which is the case that refinishes best.
Postwar housing in this region was built with a plywood or board subfloor and solid red oak strip on top, most commonly two and a quarter inches wide. It is the standard floor of the American postwar house and it is the easiest thing we work on: predictable thickness, predictable fastening, predictable result.
The question in this stock is more often the subfloor than the wood on top of it. Squeaks, deflection and movement come from below, and sanding a floor that moves gives you a smooth floor that still moves.
Worth knowing here
Red oak has a pink undertone that shows through most stain colors. If you are aiming for the cooler tones that are fashionable now, that gets tested on a sample board before anything is committed.
Whether the federal lead rule applies depends on the house
Approximately 56.4% of the homes here predate 1978, so it comes down to the specific address.
This is a place where the housing stock straddles the 1978 line the EPA rule draws. Roughly half the addresses are covered and roughly half are not, which means the answer is per house rather than per town.
Where it does apply, the rule governs how the sander is set up: containment and a HEPA vacuum collecting dust where it is generated. We check the age of the house before deciding how the work is staged.
How custom stair installation runs
We measure the opening
Every riser, every tread, and how far out of square the whole thing is.A drawing, not a catalog page
The design is drawn and agreed before material is ordered.Material selected
Species matched to the floor where the two meet.Structure corrected
Squeaks, movement and out-of-level risers addressed before anything finished goes on.Treads, risers and skirt fitted
Each piece cut for its own position.Railing and finish
Handrail, balusters and newel posts to code, then finish.
What is included in a custom stair installation
A custom stair installation covers the measuring, the drawing, the material and the fitting of every finished part of the stair. The railing is drawn with the stair. Work on the walls around it, and changes made after the drawing is agreed, are not part of the stair quote.
Included
- Measuring every riser and tread, and how far out of square the opening is.
- A drawing of the stair, agreed with you before material is ordered.
- Hardwood for treads, risers and skirt board, supplied by us and matched to the floor.
- Correcting squeaks, movement and out-of-level risers before finished material goes on.
- Fitting each tread, riser and skirt board, cut for its own position.
- Handrail, balusters and newel posts built to the code adopted locally, then stain and finish.
Not included, or quoted separately
- A firm price before we have measured the stair in person.
- Painting walls or repairing plaster next to the stair. That is not part of the stair quote.
- Changes to the design after the drawing is agreed and material is ordered. Those are quoted again.
- Structural changes to the house around the stair, such as moving a wall or reframing a floor opening.
What changes the price of a custom staircase
The price is set after we measure the stair in person, never before. Three things move it most: how many steps there are, whether the stair is open on one side, and how much of the existing structure has to be corrected before finished material goes on.
| What changes it | How it moves the price | Example |
|---|---|---|
| Number of steps | Every step is a tread and a riser measured and cut for its own position, so more steps means more pieces and more fitting. | A straight flight of fourteen risers is fourteen slightly different treads, not one tread cut fourteen times. |
| Open or closed sides | A stair open on one side needs returned tread ends and a guard with balusters. A stair between two walls needs neither. | On an open side each tread is returned so the end grain does not show, and the balusters are set into the new treads. |
| Condition of the structure | Loose treads, separated risers and uneven step heights are corrected first. How much of that there is shows once the stair is open. | A stair that squeaks on most steps takes more correction than one that is quiet and solid under the carpet. |
| Turns, landings and winders | A straight flight is the simplest geometry. Landings, turns and wedge-shaped winder treads add layout and cutting to every piece involved. | A stair that turns a corner on winders takes longer to draw and fit than a straight flight with the same number of steps. |
| Species and railing design | Tread stock is thicker than flooring and its cost follows the species. The railing adds posts, rail and balusters, in wood or iron. | White oak treads with a wood rail and iron balusters is a different material list from red oak treads between two walls. |
The full method, the equipment and what we will and will not promise are on the service page: Custom Stair Installation.
Also in Logan Square
Hardwood Floor Refinishing
Sand the old finish off, repair what needs repairing, and put a new finish down
Dustless Floor Sanding
Vacuum-extraction sanding
Solid Hardwood Floor Installation
Solid wood, nailed down over a wood subfloor
Engineered Hardwood Installation
Real wood over a stable core
Luxury Vinyl Plank (LVP) Installation
Waterproof, quiet, and it does not care about a wet basement
Stair Refinishing
Stairs take more wear per square foot than any floor in the house, and they are sanded almost entirely by hand
Hardwood Floor Repair
Board replacement, weaving in new wood, squeaks, gaps and cupping
Why homeowners hire Deco Hardwood Floor
Deco Hardwood Floor is owner operated: the person who quotes custom stair installation in Logan Square is the person responsible for it, and the material comes with the labor in one number.
Material and labor in one number
We buy the flooring direct from the distributor and pass the store price through, so you are not sourcing wood on your own between quotes.
Samples come to your house
Samples and larger offcuts come to you, so the color gets chosen in your own light instead of under a showroom lamp.
Stairs and railings built in house
Treads, risers, handrails and newel posts are drawn and built by our own crew. Most flooring crews subcontract stair work or decline it.
The owner quotes the job
The person who measures your floor is the person responsible for the work. There is no salesperson in between.
Measured before it is promised
Remaining thickness is measured at the edge of a board before we say a floor can be sanded, and no price is firm before we have seen the room.
Told straight, including the limits
Vacuum extraction catches most of the sanding dust and not all of it. We tell you that before the job instead of after.
More about who we are and what we will not claim on the About Deco Hardwood Floor page.
Questions about stair installation in Logan Square
Do you do the railing too?
Yes. Handrail, balusters and newel posts, built to the code as adopted locally.
Is it better to replace stair treads or refinish them?
Refinish if the treads are sound hardwood and the wear is only in the finish. Replace them if the nosing is worn into the wood, or if what is under the carpet is construction lumber. Custom stair installation is the second case: new hardwood treads and risers fitted over the existing structure. We look at the nosings at the estimate, and they decide which job it is.
What changes the cost of a custom stair installation?
The cost of a custom stair installation follows the number of steps, whether the stair is open on one side, and how much structure needs correcting. Turns and winders add layout time, and the species of the treads and the railing design change the material list. Deco Hardwood Floor does not quote a firm price before measuring the stair, because those are the things that set it.
Can we use the stairs while they are being built?
Access changes with the stage of the work. A custom stair installation ends with stain and finish coats, and the stair is closed while those cure. In a house with one staircase that decides who sleeps on which floor. We give you the schedule for your stair once it has been measured, so the closed periods are known before work starts.
Can you tell me what my floor needs over the phone?
We can tell you what is likely, and this page is most of that answer. What we cannot do is quote a floor we have not seen, because remaining thickness and what is under the covering both decide the job and neither is visible in a description.
Do you bring the material?
Yes. We buy direct from the distributor and the material lands in the same number as the labor. Samples and larger offcuts come to the house so you choose in your own light.
My floor squeaks. Will refinishing fix it?
No. Squeaks come from movement between the floor and the subfloor, and sanding the surface does not change what is happening underneath. Those get addressed before the floor is finished, not after.
Stair Installation near Logan Square
Send a photo and we will tell you what you are looking at
Custom Stair Installation in Logan Square starts with someone reading the house. We quote every job ourselves, with no salesperson in between, and a photo of the floor gets you a straight answer faster than a form does.
