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Solid Hardwood Floor Installation in Packer Park, Philadelphia

Solid wood, nailed down over a wood subfloor. The floor that outlives the house. In Packer Park, Philadelphia the median home dates to 1969 and 4.1% of the housing predates 1940, which changes what Deco Hardwood Floor expects to find before the work starts.

A single board and a saw resting on a bare subfloor

Solid hardwood over newer subfloors

In Packer Park the upper floors usually have a wood subfloor that takes solid hardwood well, and rooms on a slab or below grade do not.

Houses from the 1980s onward were framed with plywood or oriented strand board subfloors, and solid hardwood nails to both. The common job here is replacing carpet with wood on the main level or the bedroom floor.

The step that decides how the floor behaves is acclimation. The boards sit in the house until the moisture reading of the wood agrees with the reading of the subfloor, and installation starts then, not on the day the delivery happens to arrive.

Before you get a quote

A basement or a room on a slab is not a place for solid hardwood. There we install engineered wood, which is built to stay flat over concrete.

How the housing in Packer Park compares

Of the 2,892 housing units in Packer Park, roughly 120 were built before 1940 and approximately 1,700 before 1978.

That makes the housing here newer than the 132 Philadelphia neighborhoods in our data taken together, where approximately 82.8% of 733,961 units predate 1978, and below the 60.5% figure for our whole service area. By the share built before 1940, Packer Park ranks 123rd of those 132. The full table is published as open housing data.

Within Philadelphia, the oldest housing in our data is in Cedar Park, with a median year of 1925, and the newest is in Kensington, Old, at 1997.

Age of the housing in Packer Park and the neighborhoods nearest to it. US Census Bureau, ACS 2023 5-Year, from our open data. Neighborhood medians are aggregated from census tracts and are estimates.
PlaceMedian year builtBuilt before 1940
Packer Park19694.1%
Girard Estates192967.5%
Stadium District193852.0%
West Passyunk193065.2%
Newbold193163.4%
Lower Moyamensing193261.3%
Grays Ferry195325.7%

For a new solid floor, the median year is the useful figure. It tells you whether the house is likely to have the wood subfloor that solid hardwood needs, or a slab where it does not belong.

What is usually under the floor here

Prefinished solid or engineered wood, and whether it can be sanded at all depends on the wear layer.

Housing from the 1980s and 1990s brought factory-finished floors and engineered construction into the mainstream. Both look like wood because they are wood, and both behave differently under a sander than the site-finished floors that came before.

Engineered flooring has a real wood layer over a plywood core, and that layer can be anything from a generous four millimeters to under two. Under two, sanding is not on the table. This gets measured, not assumed, and the answer decides whether the conversation is about refinishing or about replacement.

Worth knowing here

Factory finishes are usually aluminum oxide, which is harder than anything applied on site. It does not accept a new coat without proper abrasion, and skipping that step is why recoats peel.

Whether the federal lead rule applies depends on the house

Approximately 59.3% of the homes here predate 1978, so it comes down to the specific address.

This is a place where the housing stock straddles the 1978 line the EPA rule draws. Roughly half the addresses are covered and roughly half are not, which means the answer is per house rather than per town.

Where it does apply, the rule governs how the sander is set up: containment and a HEPA vacuum collecting dust where it is generated. We check the age of the house before deciding how the work is staged.

Pale wood floor meeting a plain white wall

How solid hardwood floor installation runs

  1. We measure the house

    Moisture in the flooring and the subfloor, flatness, deflection, and what is there now.
  2. Material chosen at your kitchen table

    Samples and larger offcuts brought to you, at distributor price, in one number with the labor.
  3. Acclimation to a number

    The wood sits until the readings agree, in the conditions the room will actually live in.
  4. Layout and racking

    Boards sorted and laid out dry, so pattern and color distribution are decided before anything is fastened.
  5. Nailed down

    Fastened to schedule, with expansion left at every wall.
  6. Finish or trim out

    Site finish if the floor is raw, or shoe and transitions if it came prefinished.

What is included in a solid hardwood installation

The quote covers the measuring, the material, the subfloor preparation, the installation and the trim. It is one number for wood and labor together, written after the owner has seen the floor in person.

Included

  • A visit from the owner, with moisture, flatness and deflection checked before quoting
  • Solid hardwood supplied by us at the distributor's store price, chosen from samples and offcuts at your house
  • Removal of the existing floor when the job calls for it
  • Acclimation on site until the moisture readings of the wood and the subfloor agree
  • Racking and nail down installation, with expansion left at every wall
  • Site finish for raw wood, or shoe molding and transitions for prefinished boards

Not included, or quoted separately

  • Installation over concrete or below grade. Solid wood does not go there, engineered flooring does
  • Humidity control for the house. We say what the floor needs, but the equipment is not flooring work
  • Stair treads, risers and railings, which are a separate service with their own quote
  • Repair of framing or joists found damaged under the old floor, quoted separately if it turns up

What changes the price of hardwood floor installation

We set the price after the owner has seen the floor, never before. Three things move it most: the area and layout of the rooms, the grade and width of the board you choose, and how much work the subfloor needs before wood can be nailed to it.

What moves the price of solid hardwood floor installation. We quote after seeing the job, so this table has no amounts.
What changes itHow it moves the priceExample
Area and layoutMore square footage costs more in total. Small rooms, closets and angles cost more per foot than one open rectangle, because every wall means cuts.One open living room goes faster than the same area split across three bedrooms, a hallway and four closets.
Species and gradeThe wood is a large part of the number, and it varies with the species, the grade and how the board was sawn.A clear, select grade costs more than a character grade of the same species and width, before any labor is counted.
Board widthWide plank costs more as material and leaves less room for error, because the moisture tolerance is tighter.A seven inch plank has to read within two points of the subfloor. A two and a quarter inch strip is allowed four.
Subfloor conditionFlattening, fastening down or replacing sections of subfloor adds labor and material before the first board goes in.A subfloor that passes the straightedge needs nothing. One that sags between joists gets corrected first, and that is written into the quote.
Prefinished or site finishedRaw wood is sanded and finished in the house after it is nailed down. Prefinished boards skip that step and usually cost more as material.Raw oak adds the sanding and the coats of finish. A prefinished floor is done once the trim and transitions are on.

The full method, the equipment and what we will and will not promise are on the service page: Solid Hardwood Floor Installation.

Also in Packer Park

Open living and dining room seen from above, light oak floor throughout
Dining and living space over a warm oak floor
Traditional oak staircase with turned balusters and a square newel post

Why homeowners hire Deco Hardwood Floor

Deco Hardwood Floor is owner operated: the person who quotes solid hardwood floor installation in Packer Park is the person responsible for it, and the material comes with the labor in one number.

  • Material and labor in one number

    We buy the flooring direct from the distributor and pass the store price through, so you are not sourcing wood on your own between quotes.

  • Samples come to your house

    Samples and larger offcuts come to you, so the color gets chosen in your own light instead of under a showroom lamp.

  • Stairs and railings built in house

    Treads, risers, handrails and newel posts are drawn and built by our own crew. Most flooring crews subcontract stair work or decline it.

  • The owner quotes the job

    The person who measures your floor is the person responsible for the work. There is no salesperson in between.

  • Measured before it is promised

    Remaining thickness is measured at the edge of a board before we say a floor can be sanded, and no price is firm before we have seen the room.

  • Told straight, including the limits

    Vacuum extraction catches most of the sanding dust and not all of it. We tell you that before the job instead of after.

More about who we are and what we will not claim on the About Deco Hardwood Floor page.

Questions about hardwood installation in Packer Park

Is prefinished or site finished hardwood better?

Neither is better in every house. Prefinished boards arrive with a factory finish, so a hardwood floor installation ends when the trim goes on, and each board usually has a small bevel at its edges. Site finished wood is sanded flat after nailing and finished in place. That gives one continuous surface and a free choice of stain color, at the cost of sanding inside the house.

Can we live in the house during a hardwood floor installation?

Usually yes, with the rooms being worked on closed to traffic. Hardwood floor installation is loud, with a compressor and a nailer running, and the rooms have to be empty. If the wood is finished on site, those rooms stay off limits while the finish dries. Keep children and pets out of the work area, where there are saws and fasteners on the floor.

What should I do before the crew arrives?

Before a hardwood floor installation, have the heating or cooling running at the settings you live with, because the wood is measured against that house. Clear small and fragile things from the rooms and their closets, and agree beforehand on who moves the furniture. Deco Hardwood Floor says at the quote what the subfloor needs, so the first day should hold no surprises.

How long does hardwood need to acclimate?

There is no correct number of days. It is ready when the moisture content of the wood and the subfloor are within tolerance for that board width, measured with a meter, in a house at the conditions it will be lived in.

Can you tell me what my floor needs over the phone?

We can tell you what is likely, and this page is most of that answer. What we cannot do is quote a floor we have not seen, because remaining thickness and what is under the covering both decide the job and neither is visible in a description.

Do you bring the material?

Yes. We buy direct from the distributor and the material lands in the same number as the labor. Samples and larger offcuts come to the house so you choose in your own light.

How do I know if my engineered floor can be refinished?

By measuring the wear layer, which is the real wood on top of the core. Above about three millimeters there is room to work. Below two there is not, and no amount of care changes that.

Hardwood Installation near Packer Park

Send a photo and we will tell you what you are looking at

Solid Hardwood Floor Installation in Packer Park starts with someone reading the house. We quote every job ourselves, with no salesperson in between, and a photo of the floor gets you a straight answer faster than a form does.

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